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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:47 pm 
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Only Neffy is light enough to cross the burning bridge without it collapsing.

AND HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THOSE BURNED PAWS?

But seriously, you've offered little to convince anyone that my story is less probable and yours, and yours are based on a hell of a lot of maybes, and you're not confident enough in your investigation to risk your life, when you're putting on an act like you're pretty confident in your analysis.

Let me phrase this another way.

Why should people trust you over me? Because you got a mafia member yesterday after nearly letting yourself die? If you're mafia, you know who everyone is and can easily pick someone to kill (like that happened to me last game) to gain credibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:55 pm 
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I'm sticking with my "If Supaaku is innocent, then I suicide". Nothing to lose here. I honestly have nothing more to say about my situation. We just wait for others to vote, since it's mostly us 3 talking in here.

And Kamak, your story isn't less probable than time. Yours relies on a couple maybes just like mine.
And killing Mafia members is a shot in the foot, anyway you look at it. Mafia is outnumbered from the start. Killing someone for a chance to live isn't smart. At all. High risk, little reward.

Go ahead. I'm confident enough to keep my Supaaku vote.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:02 pm 
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He's not going to be innocent. You suited him. You also sacrificed a gang member, who had no other power, to gain trust so that you could take down several townies. Low risk, high reward, especially with no lookout role.

Also, Kamak has offered evidence to go with his maybes. Enough to support it as the logical choice. You, however, have only said "No it's a trap!" with nothing to back it up.

Also, after Nefarious is revealed as a gang member, in case I'm killed tonight, here's the list of people to go after next: Galaxy Man and then Saximaphone. Galaxy Man because he's likely gang boss (would show up as innocent so Nef had no fears putting him down on the list because that's what the real sheriff would find) and then Saximaphone because Kamak will have earned your trust and he's pinned Sax as guilty.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:03 pm 
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You also sacrificed a gang member, who had no other power, to gain trust so that you could take down several townies.


Like I said.

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Ah, forgot to add that the people after Galaxy and Sax for prime lynching would be Potato and E-Goat for jumping on the Sup bandwagon.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:08 pm 
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You also sacrificed a gang member, who had no other power, to gain trust so that you could take down several townies.


Like I said.

Miller.

Except it'd have to be a pretty lucky shot to hit a miller. The mafia can't investigate the townies at all (Unless I read something wrong).

Most likely scenario in that case was that they suited a townie (which would require way too much foresight in this case), or they sacrificed a random mafia in order to make Bear seem like a real Sheriff.

So while it's possible that they hit a miller, the chances are pretty slim and would out Bear as scum if he was wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:20 pm 
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Madican wrote:
He's not going to be innocent. You suited him. You also sacrificed a gang member, who had no other power, to gain trust so that you could take down several townies. Low risk, high reward, especially with no lookout role.

Also, Kamak has offered evidence to go with his maybes. Enough to support it as the logical choice. You, however, have only said "No it's a trap!" with nothing to back it up.

Also, after Nefarious is revealed as a gang member, in case I'm killed tonight, here's the list of people to go after next: Galaxy Man and then Saximaphone. Galaxy Man because he's likely gang boss (would show up as innocent so Nef had no fears putting him down on the list because that's what the real sheriff would find) and then Saximaphone because Kamak will have earned your trust and he's pinned Sax as guilty.

Mafia is VERY outnumbered. Really sacrificing someone it always high risk. And why would i sacrifice Sol without defending myself in some way shape or form the following night to make my story more believable? The answer: I had no control over it because I'm not part of the Mafia. Honestly, If I was mafia, not doing any actions to seal my role would be a silly move and we'd end up just hurting ourselves in the long run.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:33 pm 
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I.... should not be alive right now. Nor should Robot be dead.

Sol said he'd be at camp or something for a few days so I'm actually pretty sure that he was mafia and sacrificed to earn cred for Bear. Much like SPAM attempted to pull off last game with Kamak. It worked this time however because no one can verify if someone visits any more.

Bear likely wants to get me lynched because I pointed this out Day 2. I am not mafia, but Bear has a one in three chance that I would be guilty. 100% if I was suited.

Bear was also likely not expecting me to respond to his accusation by asking the Clint Eastwood to kill me. The mafia likely panicked and attempted to say I was trying to frame him, much like Exeres did in the Strawberry Mafia game. I don't like high risk. But everything I've seen happen points to Bear not being Sheriff.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:38 pm 
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I.... should not be alive right now. Nor should Robot be dead.

Sol said he'd be at camp or something for a few days so I'm actually pretty sure that he was mafia and sacrificed to earn cred for Bear. Much like SPAM attempted to pull off last game with Kamak. It worked this time however because no one can verify if someone visits any more.

Bear likely wants to get me lynched because I pointed this out Day 2. I am not mafia, but Bear has a one in three chance that I would be guilty. 100% if I was suited.

Bear was also likely not expecting me to respond to his accusation by asking the Clint Eastwood to kill me. The mafia likely panicked and attempted to say I was trying to frame him, much like Exeres did in the Strawberry Mafia game. I don't like high risk. But everything I've seen happen points to Bear not being Sheriff.


But I called your bluff and was in fact waiting for him to kill. It just so happened the RNG was in your favor. I was quite sad that happened, actually, the lack of Clint Eastwood on our team is a big disadvantage.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:40 pm 
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I'm actually glad you survived. Had Robot killed you to reveal you as a gang member then Nefarious would have gained complete credibility and then he'd use it to end us. This way, yes we lost the Clint Eastwood, but we have a list of people to go after once Nefarious is dead. In the end, his sacrifice will ensure victory.

Because you're right that Sol is at camp. Meaning the other mafia likely sacrificed him as Kamak and I are saying, to that he can gain trust. Should Nefarious be killed today and revealed as a gang member then we have a good chance of winning.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm 
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Yes it is, because I wasn't able to be here as soon as day broke to sort out the sheriff ordeal. If Clint had killed Supaaku, you would have been the most credible person and me counter claiming sheriff would have been laughable.

In a way, it was a good thing that Clint failed to kill Supaaku. Bear and the mafia could have outed Clint, shot AND lynched a townie, and had a night kill that would have made it near impossible for the town to win.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:51 pm 
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At camp or not, mafia is mafia. If i was mafia, I could've gotten replacement and it would've been like he never left. But I decided to axe him, because that's what sheriffs do.

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No, you couldn't have gotten a replacement otherwise that'd screw over the entire game. You had a mafia who wasn't doing anything, so you sacrificed him to give your team the edge.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:55 pm 
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Okay seriously, where the hell is everyone?

There's like 4 people discussing this whole thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:56 pm 
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How would that have screwed the game over?

>Introduce new player
>Don't reveal role of his/hers
>Give him/her the mafia discussion sheet

Boom. Done.

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