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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:27 pm 
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Weren't you against it when Reyo suggested the same thing on day 2 or 3?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:34 pm 
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Town was in a bit of a different position at the time, and I was more worried about losing the gunsmith to a mafia with a gun before getting anything out of them.

My main hope was to get a central figure that we could trust to help sort out things.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
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hope with suggesting it today was*

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 pm 
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It is a little strange for you to have a sudden change of heart.

Here's the situation we're in.
We lynch and hit villager, we lose.
We lynch and hit a mafia, we have another chance at winning.
We no lynch, and we have a single chance to see if the mafia hits someone with a gun.

Now, given the mafia would be able to win if they shot two people, we can assume they have at most one gun. Kamak admitted he didn't have one, so chances are he's going to be targeted unles the gunsmith is able to give him a gun tonight and it works, or he's mafia and he's just trying to get a gun.

That leaves 5 villagers, 2-3 of which have guns, and 4 mafia, 0-1 of which have a gun. Instead of the gunsmith claiming, maybe those with guns can claim, and this discussion has been done.

I looked through the suspicions and this is what I found:
Most suspected: d-vid
Least suspected: turbo, saint, guy
Did the most suspecting: saint and Kamak
Suspected the least: Me and tam

At this point, the Maria's main motive would be to get the town to lynch another villager. With that, if a suspected person is a villager, we'd get little resistance, but if they're mafia, we. Would expect a lot of resistance from at least one or two of them. What's more is if I were mafia, I'd also try to make it a point of voting for someone on a bandwagon as the middle person, especially if the person who were the focus of the wagon were a villager.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:12 pm 
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I don't think anyone would admit they don't have gun. I'd say I have one regardless of me having one or not. Except kamak for some reason did say he doesn't.
I know I have a gun.(or not. Wanna try, mafia?)

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:13 pm 
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Where did you get the numbers for who has a gun? For all we know the gunsmith coulda went full retard and given them all to mafia, or got hooked, or something.

Actually, wouldn't someone with a gun shoot an incoming hooker?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm 
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Can someone make a list of everyone each person has accused/voted against (who is still alive) in this thread? And maybe add in whoever they defended in the thread?

Obviously the guilty parties are going to be less likely to mention the names of their comrades, so we might see a pattern where they'll have omitted a few names from their accusations.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:16 pm 
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If mafia had 2+ guns they would just kill 2 villagers and win the game. Since they don't do that, it's likely they have 1 at best.

How many there are in all is hard to tell because someone we lynched could have had one, or the gunsmith could have been hooked.
But the highest possible amount of guns in play right now is 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:20 pm 
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Hi!

For shootings in self-defense, I apply the same rules as I do with chosen shootings. 100% accuracy and a 50% chance to reveal the identity of the shooter. Self-defense shots are only fired if you are the target of a mafia kill at night, not if you are hooked. Additionally, the gunsmith can make himself a gun.

Yes, today is LYLO. In the event of a stalemate, please inhale and exhale calmly. In the event of the existence of guns, the day will start as normal and will continue normally until all guns have been used or a popular vote is reached. Naturally, if no guns exist and town = mafia, the mafia wins. You can call stalemate day "High Noon" if you want because it sounds cooler and shots are probably going to get fired!

Now, back to work.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26 pm 
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Alright then, I think at this point I have no reservations about keeping the gunsmith hidden.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:32 pm 
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I don't have a lynch list, but I do have a suspicion list (which includes lynch votes), but it's only pertinent to people who are presently alive.

Suspected:
Turbo suspected me.
Runes suspected me and Tam.
Cori suspected runes, me, and D-vid.
Saint suspected tam, angelic, cori, and d-vid.
Kamak suspected me, d-vid, angelic, and cori.
D-vid suspected runes, tam, and Kamak.
Guy suspected angel and d-vid.
Angel suspected d-vid.
Tam hasn't suspected anyone.
I haven't suspected anyone.

This is only for people who are alive though.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:35 pm 
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I got suspected so much ;A;

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:42 pm 
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Thanks to that almost bandwagon yesterday. The only suspicion missing is Alec's, who was murdered......by us.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:59 pm 
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My suspicions list is Runes, Cori, D-vid, and a little bit of Kamak.

Reasoning: Going back through the thread I found it funny that Runes wasn't shocked at the death of the Inspector. Both "Haha" funny, and "weird" funny. But other than that, weird voting.

Cori: Being suspicious of inactives, especially Alec. Seems like they're the type mafia likes to target.

D-vid: Pretty defensive (though not gonna count that against him too much, cause he was about to get lynched), switching votes, and expectant for lynches.

Kamak: Lynching Alec who didn't speak a lot, and it seems like they were suspicious of quiet people too. It also seems like it'd be a horrible irony for Kamak to be in mafia when everyone pretty much trusts them. And also for thinking I'm suspicious.

I think that Reyo's the most innocent. Seems to want to help town the most.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 4
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:10 am 
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Kamak wrote:
Alright then, I think at this point I have no reservations about keeping the gunsmith hidden.

Care to extrapolate why your reservations are gone now?

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