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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:35 pm 
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Holes? come on now. This is exactly what they wanted you to think. Getting a free kill at day. But I've said that so many times already, but no one listens...

And Random picking to see who is the next mafioso is random. Nothing more, nothing less.

And you HAPPENED to investigate me first night? Call me crazy, but it sounds like a framing to me.

I had just under a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a mafia member. I picked you for shits and giggles.

I just happened to be right.

Also guys, we only have 13 people and 5 mafia members. If we hit an innocent person, and the mafia kills an innocent at night, they're only 1 person away from a majority win. If Supaaku is innocent, you've just pretty much handed the game to the mafia.

Worst case scenario if you follow my plan and I'm mafia, you have an innocent and a mafia dead, so the odds are exactly the same. Best case scenario, you kill a mafia today and know who to lynch tomorrow when I am undoubtedly killed at night.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:41 pm 
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Like Kamak said, hitting a random Mafia wasn't hard. Want to know how I chose my target? Random.org.

Come on people, Nef hasn't given any serious defense to these accusations beyond "we could be playing right into their trap." There's no reason the mafia would leave him alone and hook Flicky when he'd taken down one of their own unless that person was suited or mafia already, which he'd know. Instead they chose to lynch a random person who turned out to be villager. Why do this unless they don't want Flicky to discover he's actually the real sheriff and the first day was just a fluke, while they try to force the real sheriff out of hiding?

Lynch the bear and find out the truth.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Kamak is also willing to die for the town if he's wrong, whereas Nefarious is insistent on surviving. Keep that in mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:45 pm 
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Holes? come on now. This is exactly what they wanted you to think. Getting a free kill at day. But I've said that so many times already, but no one listens...

And Random picking to see who is the next mafioso is random. Nothing more, nothing less.

And you HAPPENED to investigate me first night? Call me crazy, but it sounds like a framing to me.

I had just under a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a mafia member. I picked you for shits and giggles.

I just happened to be right.

Also guys, we only have 13 people and 5 mafia members. If we hit an innocent person, and the mafia kills an innocent at night, they're only 1 person away from a majority win. If Supaaku is innocent, you've just pretty much handed the game to the mafia.

Worst case scenario if you follow my plan and I'm mafia, you have an innocent and a mafia dead, so the Oodles are exactly the same. Best case scenario, you kill a mafia today and know who to lynch tomorrow when I am undoubtedly killed at night.



"For shits and giggles" is an even worse excuse.

The chance that after I revealed that I was the sheriff that Kamak had dirt on me since night 1 and didn't even do so much as try and lynch me once. Ha, fat chance. I am insistent on survival because the sheriff is now the town's very last defense. Lose that and we all lose. Kamak is "willing" to die just so he could seem more truthful. You know I tried to pull the same exact move last game, so I should know.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Nefarious Bear wrote:
I am insistent on survival because the sheriff is now the town's very last defense. Lose that and we all lose.


Wrong. So very, very wrong. If you are the true sheriff then you will be hooked or killed tonight to prevent any more investigations. If hooked, you'll be kept hooked for the rest of the game. Your role is effectively worthless now if you're town sided. If you're mafia, then of course you believe that you'll survive because it was never your role to begin with. Instead, Kamak will die/be hooked repeatedly.

If town-sided you're already dead to us. If mafia then we're dead if you don't die. I'd rather be the one to slip the noose around your neck and just make it official. We bodaciously have nothing to lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:52 pm 
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We DO have something to lose, and that is a daytime lynch, effectively making the town smaller and more vulnerable. You would just be making it much easier for the mafia to win. Making them kill me at night or forever be hooked at the very least makes them waste an action.

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Also, this plan is doubly effective.

On the off chance either of them were tailored to be innocent, I will suicide and appear innocent as well, which means someone had to be tailored, which means that one of us would have to be guilty.

However, I'm convinced that Supaaku is tailored to get people to trust Neffy for the win.

And Neffy, you're a horrible liar. You were ONE vote away from dying yesterday and you said this originally:

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also i'm noticing that, instead of actually you know trying to convince people that you're not guilty, you've essentially boiled to "it's a bandwagon stop it you guys are dumb"

so yeah that's just another bit onto the suspicion pile.

to be fair it's not a particularly large pile but it's the largest one yet.

How am I supposed to convince you guys I'm not guilty? I can't, that's why.
Ah well, looks I'm almost dead anyway.


Then you said:

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One more vote seals my fate.


and after Galaxy posts, half an hour after your LAST post, you suddenly come out:

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I didn't want to reveal this until this was absolutely necessary, But I am the real sheriff.

I didn't want to reveal this earlier because I already had a big target on my forehead from the mafia, but its down to one vote from the town anyway.

My first 2 nights was:

Galaxy man is innocent
Sol reaper is guilty


Take that as you wish.


You say the mafia was "tergetting" you, but after getting away with the town trusting you, why the hell would the mafia let you live and not even HOOK you. You'd have fucked up their plans and they're just going to ignore you so that they "might" get you lynched tomorrow rather than having you reveal another of them as guilty?

This is really just too much.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
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This is awesome. More people should join the discussion though, you won't be done with the day if no one votes.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
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For reference:
It's 4 votes for Supaaku and 3 votes for Nefarious Bear.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
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People, please, you know I'm the only one in this entire game who is 100% on the town sided. Kind of ensured that when I dropped a mafia member on Day 1. I support Kamak's logic and my own, whereas Nefarious has offered nothing substantial.

Hell if it'll make you pop flyin' I'll suicide also if Kamak is wrong. You know I'll do it if it means the town winning.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:00 pm 
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People, please, you know I'm the only one in this entire game who is 100% on the town sided. Kind of ensured that when I dropped a mafia member on Day 1. I support Kamak's logic and my own, whereas Nefarious has offered nothing substantial.

Hell if it'll make you pop flyin' I'll suicide also if Kamak is wrong. You know I'll do it if it means the town winning.

And yet another person "willing to die". It seems like you too REALLY want to be trusted, especially if you do are pulling the same goddamn stunt. It's almost like you two are in cahoots. Yes we know that you shot down a mafia 1st day, But how do we know that you didn't tailor him to look like mafia? Not saying that that is correct, just putting that out there. There is a chance that happened, just like the chance that Kamak "happened" to investigate me first night.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
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And there's where you slip up. Sure, it's smart to use one of a tailor's two suits on someone and then immediately after use a gun with a 66% hit rate and 50% chance to be revealed as the shooter.

Or, you know, that's just a really stupid plan and I like to think I'm smarter than that. Were I mafia, I'd save the suits until I was certain the ones in them would be killed, otherwise they'd be a waste. You know, sort of like what I think you're trying to pull.

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:06 pm 
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I was saying that was a possibility, not the truth, buddy boy. I'm just saying "100% confirmed" isn't 100% true
c wut i did thar?
I do believe you are innocent, but its not out of the question that there is a slim chance that you aren't

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 Post subject: Re: Ye olde Mafia, you killed the beer source, assholes DAY
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Keep backpedaling, hopefully the other townies will see it.

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