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Chill Def, no reason to get hostile. Also, my apologies for the chop job with the quotes, but ya said so much that I can't really address it properly without doing so.

Obama has simply renamed the war "The Overseas Contingency Act" and then escalated it. We have more troops in the Middle East than ever before.

Obama is increasing the deficiet in the middle of a recession

Obama has done the same thing with people surrounding him, as has virtually every president for decades. Welcome to American Politics.

Making fun of someone's accent is really childish

I'm being critical of Obama exactly for where he deserves it. It's my opinion, and you are free to disagree with it. For only having been here for a few months, Obama has done a LOT. Most of which has been, in my opinion, very destructive to the stability of the nation.

As I see it, what this nation needs right now, really badly, is for the national government to buckle down, make a budget, and get our deficit back down to a controlled level. We need to stop treating printing cheddar and/or borrowing cheddar from other countries as if it was the solution for all our problems. It's just going to bite us in the booty as time goes on.

Goddamn it, you people take me too seriously; I guess I meant more around what foo said, but also I just like disagreeing with everyone else in the room.
I seriously have like W. Bush stickers just for this purpose.

Also we (US) need to just screw it and invade the rest of the world once we build a radiation-missile shield so that the planet will be united and we can start taking over other planets for when the Earth runs out of resources.

I don't think you read what I said.


You really have no idea what you're talking about.


You really have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know why that whole story was such a scandal? Because it was the US Attorney General, and the judicial system is supposed to be beyond the influence of the president and such partisanship.


I'm saying that Bush spoke like he just came out of kindergarten. I'm not making fun of anyone's accent, I'm saying that Bush spoke like an idiot.


How the hell would you even measure that? There's no Defcon scale on how intact the nation is. What has he done? The economy was already undergoing entropy when he inherited it, and a recession is not like a car that you can stop at any time. It's not like it's a train and he's Mister Incredible, able to stand in front of it and bring it to a grinding halt immediately. It's naturally going to take time to wane the economy out of its degenerating state. There's no magic fucking wand that's going to make it better, you just need to give it time.


Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody knows how the economy works, especially you. So stop acting like you're the authority on government. If you really think that you know the solution, don't you think that we would be doing that already? Because there sure as hell are people smarter than you or me working on fixing this mess.

So basically you are saying we should blindly trust Obama because whatever he says must be right with how he handles the economy?

After all, hey, we are in a recession because our nation is in too much debt, the obvious solution is to spend our way out of our debt. Obviously the only way to get rid of debt is by spending more cheddar. Common sense would indicate this. Obviously Obama is in the correct track...

...Right?

Isn't blindly trusting the president how we got into this mess in the first place with Bush?

Completely unrelated to anything else:
It's true that Bush's way of talking made people dislike him even more and caused a lot of people around here (and I mean a lot) think of all US Americans as total idiots.
I'll admit that I don't know much about current US politics, but I do know first-hand that Obama is giving the US a positive image again around here. That's a huge step in the right direction.
I'm not trying to justify any mistakes he's making (if he's making them, I wouldn't know), but he sure isn't Bush 2.0.

Bush isn't wholly responsible for this crisis. True, he did remove regulations for the financial industry, but this whole crisis cannot be blamed on any single entity or person. It started with the Clinton administration and their push for every American to have the opportunity to own a home (which is a flawed idea in the first place, because let's face it, not everybody's a responsible human being) but we can't blame it on them, either. This crisis has blossomed from the poor decisions of many.

Also, need I point out the obvious fact that Bush and Obama are not the same person? Just because they're using the same overall strategy does not mean that they're handling it the same. There's a difference between just throwing cheddar in the general direction of the problem and allocating the cheddar where it's needed.

But what I'm trying to say is what else can we do but trust him? We've got some of the most brilliant financial minds available working on this problem, and if they can't work out this problem, then we certainly can't. I mean, really, what viable solutions do you have that they already haven't though of? You can say that their current course of action is destructive and won't work all you want, but honestly, what evidence is there that it won't work out in the long term. Time will be the deciding factor in this plan, and any other plan that anybody suggests, because this thing isn't going to be fixed overnight. It doesn't matter what you see going on right now, it's about how you think it will turn out in the future. The only way to fix the present is to look to the future.


THAT IS NOT THE REASON. YOU FUCKING IDIOT. We are in this in this recession because too many banks made predatory loans that were likely to not work out, causing them to go belly up. Their collapse, coupled with the poor decisions of several other financial institutions, left a huge impact on the market. These institutions, which were touted as "too big to fail" did just that, and because their survival was crucial to the survival of the DOW, it severely wounded the market. Spending is not even close to why we're in the recession. Once again, you have proven that you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

It does not take ten minutes to type that up...

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but anyway. it bugs me when people say bush is the worst president ever, 'cause andrew jackson was definitely the worst.

i think he should be removed from the twenty dollar bill and replaced with someone meaningful

Naw. He wasn't even close to that bad.

I'm somewhat split between Warren Harding and Andrew Johnson, with Ulysses Grant being the runner up.

I can't come back and decide to edit it later?

I have no doubt it will work out in the long run. I do not think we are going to see the end of our country anytime soon. And it's silly to act like the only two options are "Succeed, or have America come to an end and be sold to Canada or something"

The real question is, will it work out sooner or later? Will the recession end in a year or two, or in a decade?

Oh man, I totally forgot about Andrew Johnson. He really is the worst.

James Buchanan, anybody?

Wait wait wait wait. Wait.

There were presidents before bush?! School never edumacated me on this!

My opinion on gays is. Love is love.

Gay marriage is kinda meh as I don't like the idea of marriage in general but i guess anyone should be able to marry anyone it if they want to.

GUISE U FORGET OBAMA IS BLACK111eleven!

I never got the big deal that he was president anyway. Cool its a president thats nice.

Then again i'm only 16 so I can't even vote yet.
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I'd throw him in the runner up category with Grant.

It's pretty hard to sink to Andrew Johnson's level.

What did Johnson do to you.
His congress just hated him because he wasn't as cool a Lincoln.