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Personally, I think if you're well enough to contact the mayor's office, you're well enough to know you can't get away with killing an animal.
What kinda of arbitrary comparison is that? It seems that a lot of what you're saying is very speculative. You haven't even posted what sorta of disability the man has, and that makes a huge difference.
I don't know him personally, and they haven't revealed what his disability actually IS, which leads to my questioning how serious it is.

What has been proven is: he has a disability of some kind, he slit her dog's throat when they weren't at home, the rest of the neighbourhood is now incredibly on edge and doesn't want him remaining there or not getting any criminal punishment, and that his dad was lying when he said he felt his son's actions were justified. Since that last part was revealed, the case has been pushed back so we're still waiting to see what happens. And yes, we speculate that the defense is trying to come up with more than his disability for their case. BUT since we don't know what their entire case is, that's just a speculation.

But sorry if I'm upset my friend lost her dog and has to deal with this for so long, whereas normally this could have been solved so quickly. My aunt is mental disabled, but she's just as much a normal person as me. If she did this, I'd want her punished too, just like if anyone else did it. So my final speculation is: He can live on his own despite his disablity, he can contact the mayor's office for months, but he should be able to avoid punishment? Get him help if he doesn't already have it, but don't let that be all. That's my opinion.

Now I'm sorry for the ranting and if you still find what I'm saying offensive, then whatever. I'll be offensive. I still want to beat the crap out of the guy myself for doing this, disability or not. I'm a bitch. :colbert:

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No, quite frankly anyone with sense would beat him up. The jerk.

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I think two years ago, a man spent years in jail for killing a little girl's 2 pet hamsters.
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I'd hate to bump an old thread, especially this one, but this is fucking the hell out of my mind.

So, the case is finally one day away from coming to a verdict, after this long.

So much has been revealed since then, it just... makes my head hurt, like I said.

So, the guy revealed what his disorder was; He has ADD. He also claims to have hyper-sensitive hearing, and that's why he has a problem with loud noises, but he's supplied no proof to back this up and I forget if they tested him to find out if this was true or not.

So instead of being insane, he just has a learning disorder. Atleast, that's all he has that's diagnosed. If he actually has hyper-sensitive hearing, then I guess excessive barking might drive me insane for a time too, but then more things were revealed that changed my mind about that too.

1) The neighbours right beside my friend's home have stated they heard no excessive barking, even when the man stood right infront of their and my friend's home. At the worst of times, my friend's dog would bark for a minute or two if a stranger approached the backyard's fence, which was on very rare occassions.

2) When asked why he went into the backyard with a knife in his hand, the man claimed he had just gotten back from a camping trip in which he took the knife to fend off bears and cougars, and on his way home, he had once again heard the dog barking and thought he would scare it into shutting up if he had the knife in hand. After that, he claims the dog, which was still tied up, somehow lunged at him from across the yard, and he was forced to defend himself with the knife.

I really just... have no idea how to react to this anymore. There's still talk he might be let go with no time in jail or rehabilitation, and it just blows my mind. Am I naive in thinking atleast something, anything, would have to be wrong with this guy for him to do something like this, and that he deserves rehabilitation, or punishment if he really is just that cruel? It's all just getting so ridiculous now, I have no idea anymore.

Apologies if my behavior has been leaking into my posts on the rest of the forum and if this post is just a mess of whiny, senseless bitching. You can point out the parts I'm being retarded in or just state your own opinion, or whatever. Would the best plan be just to delete this topic?

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I don't understand why he would be in someone's backyard after going out camping. Do you even have aggressive bears and cougars in your area?

And I think you should do whatever you want to the thread. You made it.

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im gonna vote for punishment, or if he does have some actually problem where he doesnt understand right from wrong, then get him some mental help. but ADD doesnt seem like something that would lead to all this, so yeah, i think he should get some jail time.

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I have fucking ADD and I most certainly do not think that makes it right to kill an animal, any animal. This guy is an idiot who's going to get himself or other people hurt badly for no reason whatsoever; If they don't put him in prison, he'll wander where once again he can harm another being without taking any injury himself.

So you know what we should do? Save him up until the next war, then send him BEHIND enemy lines where he'll screw up and attack the enemy. A guy like this would do anything to save his own skin.

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Hoshika-Pichu wrote:
Do you even have aggressive bears and cougars in your area?
On the outskirts of the city, yes, because those areas tend to be more country and less industrialization. If he went camping out there and didn't act safely (leaving out food will definitely attract bears out there), then he could've gotten himself killed.

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I have fucking ADD and I most certainly do not think that makes it right to kill an animal, any animal.
I don't think he thought his ADD made it alright for him to kill the dog. It was more like a bunch of things he felt added up to enough to justify the crime, or he simply had no idea what he was doing was wrong.

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Miss StarSeed wrote:
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Do you even have aggressive bears and cougars in your area?
On the outskirts of the city, yes, because those areas tend to be more country and less industrialization. If he went camping out there and didn't act safely (leaving out food will definitely attract bears out there), then he could've gotten himself killed.


Assuming your friend's backyard is not the outskirts of the city, he would have no reason to be wandering around in a neighbor's backyard with a knife like that, even if he had ADD. I don't think it's a remotely common thing for bears to pop up in a yard in an urban area.

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Hoshika-Pichu wrote:
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Do you even have aggressive bears and cougars in your area?
On the outskirts of the city, yes, because those areas tend to be more country and less industrialization. If he went camping out there and didn't act safely (leaving out food will definitely attract bears out there), then he could've gotten himself killed.


Assuming your friend's backyard is not the outskirts of the city, he would have no reason to be wandering around in a neighbor's backyard with a knife like that, even if he had ADD. I don't think it's a remotely common thing for bears to pop up in a yard in an urban area.
He said he had taken the knife for his camping trip, and then thought to scare the dog with it. His story did have a giant hole in it when he said the dog lunged at him though, since it was tied up and wouldn't be able to reach him unless he got too close.

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Starseed, here's a question:
What makes you think that you're a better judge of crime and a judge of character that entitles you to insist your judgement is better than the profressionals, who have far more training on the matter and who have a far more complete description of the event?

Don't be so arrogant.


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Plasma wrote:
Starseed, here's a question:
What makes you think that you're a better judge of crime and a judge of character that entitles you to insist your judgement is better than the profressionals, who have far more training on the matter and who have a far more complete description of the event?

Don't be so arrogant.
Most of the evidence from their investigations is stacked against him, but there's still talk he'll be let go. That's unavoidable in any case, but I wasn't trying to arrogant. I'm sorry.

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I think on this forum Star is one of the least arrogant sons of bitches (good band). Maybe it is you, Plasma, who is the arrogant one. Whore.

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Plasma wrote:
Starseed, here's a question:
What makes you think that you're a better judge of crime and a judge of character that entitles you to insist your judgement is better than the profressionals, who have far more training on the matter and who have a far more complete description of the event?

Don't be so arrogant.


I think younger people often see crime as crystal-clear: He killed a dog for no good reason and is trying to get away with it. That's ALL the evidence we need, that he killed a dog. I wouldn't lunge at YOU with a knife if you never shut up. :\ Besides, Star knew her friend personally, so obviously she'd have access to information that goes deeper than what you hear in a court room.

And yes, Star is definitely not aggressive. When she's not PMSing. I mean I talk to her a lot so I know. :| I know I tend to be fairly aggressive, especially when trying to win an argument or even something as dumb as a soccer match. Trust me, she is not arrogant.

and from what i've heard his "disability" is not serious at all.

oh and Star, I wasn't saying it like that. I was saying that he's just using his ADD as an excuse to stay out of jail, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Come on, how can Attention Deficit Disorder have anything to do killing anybody's dog? He wasn't paying attention and accidentally stabbed the dog?

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Obviously if he wasn't going to be prosecuted because he was mentally unstable, that means they're going to put him in the nuthouse.


They don't just let the "mentally unstable" guys go 'free". They just don't go to jail.







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