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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:10 pm 
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It's not a bad idea to do that, but we could accidentally hit a power role who's just trying to stay quiet and not draw the Maria's attention, though.

I'd prefer it if we asked people who voted for either dzelda or granny one day, but not the other the other day why they had such a voting trend. Since I am on that list myself, I'm more than willing to re-explain myself, though I did do that already with each post I made either deciding to vote or not vote. If that doesn't turn anything up, then we can go after those who voted for both dzelda, and granny (sorry loth/Alec).

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:23 pm 
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Back on day one, the only reason ANYONE had to lynch Dzelda was "scummy as hell", except Granny who may have investigated the colonel.

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The only idea I have is to look back at both lynching parties. At least we can see who voted for both dzelda, and granny to come up with another suspect pool.

People who voted for dzelda:
Granny-dead village
Alec
Banter-dead village
Egoat
Guyperson
Runes
Lotharu
Mr. Fuzznut


Is this the order people voted in? Because if Alec was the next person to vote after granny, he could be suspect. On the other hand, someone mentioned quiet players, and I don't think e-goat has said much yet. I haven't heard much from fuzznut either I think but he's at the end of the list so I'm less suspicious.
Also if that isn't the order they voted in someone check up what was.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:41 pm 
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It is the correct order, and now that you mention it Alec did say he wrote his post before Granny's showed up, almost starting the bandwagon. That could go either way, but I remember him drawing attention to the fact that a mafia member wouldn't normally do that, which could have been misdirection on his part. Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:04 pm 
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That was more in regards to the possibility of Benson's innocence than my own, but yeah, I can see why that makes me suspicious.

But yeah. The only thing I can really say at this point to defend myself is that my behavior does not match up with what the Mafia seems to be doing. If only two individuals are overlapping, it seems the Mafia is playing it safe, letting the town kill off our own, and only having one or two members give the needed push. Meanwhile, I've been hasty, have not kept a low profile, and voted for Benson at a point where one could've let the town run its course, with a gentle nudge here or there, instead of having their vote appear seconds after the first lynch vote.
TLDR: If I'm scum, I'm pretty shitty scum.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:23 pm 
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You'll have to trust giraffe with the order since I just got the list from when the DM reported the end of day shenanigans with everyone's votes.

Also, if we're taking the order of the votes into account, were I mafia (I said this last game. I'm not mea gaming, just trying not to unintentionally sound redundant) I'd actually want to vote closer to the middle since people always want to look at whoever jumped on. The bandwagon too quickly, or didn't want to vote until the last minute, depending on what role the lynched party was. Since it was town, I'd want to look more towards the first half than the second, but not assume that the first person who voted is definitely mafia.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:52 pm 
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Well splitting it down the middle like that, E-goat is the only one that fits the bill (counting Alec as a "first vote" since he pretty much almost was one). I could be mistaken but I don't think E-goat's even posted after that, which could definitely be seen as suspicious.

Going a bit further down, there's Guyperson, though he's been active lately and I'm personally not getting scummy vibe off him at the moment, and Runes, who's also popped up from time to time. Looking over the Day 3 posts, I find it interesting that they both show up to talk, but neither really say anything towards the lynch wagon, and through that can say "I contributed" but not show up on Suupaku's list, which we've been using as a record. And then at the end, which Guyperson pointed out, is Fuzznut, who was the only one to make a vote on Day 3 outside of the Granny bandwagon, to "No Lynch". That's interesting to me as well, that he'd show up to avoid getting on a town-lynching bandwagon but not really push for any reason to not lynch Granny.

I really don't want to jump to conclusions again like I did with Granny, but does any of that strike anyone as overly suspicious?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:50 am 
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I still think Lotharu is our best bet. Granny implicated him and I seriously hope he didn't just say that from a gut feeling but because there was a big fat GUILTY next to his name on his nightly report.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:31 am 
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When did he implicate me? Still haven't gotten an answer if we get notifications about investigations like we do with doctor visits and whatnot.
If anything he probably implicated me because, as I said, I accidentally started the bandwagon on him.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:33 am 
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Well, there's not anyway to prove my innocence really, so I like to make light of the situation. I can totally see why you think I should be lynched, and I honestly can't think of a way to help myself in the situation. I could pull the "you'll regret it" crap, but I'm innocent so that goes without saying.

I think we should still analyze who else voted for Dzelda, and possibly the people that voted for me, and see if we can come up with some sort of list of suspects. I think Lotharu might belong on that list, but I'm not casting any votes yet. He pulled the "you're too defensive" card like me, and he voted simply because the day was taking too long. It shouldn't be that easy to cast a vote unless you're positive someone is guilty, or if you're guilty and you know they're not one of you. He gave her "one more chance to defend" but that may have been to make himself seem less suspicious. I'm still not sure about him, just throwing my thoughts out there.

There. Subtly. He probably didn't want to scream out in the world "Hey, I'm Solid Snake. I had sex with your mother and if you have a sister, then with her too."

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:35 am 
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If I was him, I'd investigate whoever I thought was most suspicious after we lynched Kitsune. And since he implicated you, I'd say it was you he investigated and turned up guilty.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:40 am 
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Ah, too subtle for me.
My only explanation for that is still "I wanted the day to end, but didn't want to give the mafia a free kill, either."
I was pretty apprehensive about voting for her, seeing how no one would be that obvious, but there was a small chance of her being bad trying to be TOO obvious, you know?
For this day there still aren't ANY good leads, aside from myself of course, so I'm going to vote No Lynch for now.
If we don't decide by the end of the day, let's hope for a repeat of last night.
Or maybe even have Grey Fox get a kill and the mafia doesn't, who knows what might happen. All I know is that apparently it is better, sometimes, to give the mafia a free kill rather than kill a townie ourselves and end the game quicker.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:44 am 
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Good enough for me.

Alliterally Lynch Lotharu


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Voting No Lynch can't be the solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:49 am 
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I really hate saying no lynch, but I agree that I'm probably the most guilty looking right now, and I don't see any other people to vote for. Maybe D-Vid, but that would only be because he seems adamant against me? If not D-Vid, Cori seems to have been suspicious, to me at least, don't really know why.
All I can really say for myself at this point is I'm not guilty l.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:33 am 
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Well, given the road you guys seem to be going down, I'll cast my vote for lot hard as well. I know it isn't like myself since I'll usually want to wait until near the end to vote for anyone, but there's more justification to vote for you than to hesitate. You were one of the ones on both lynching parties, and it can be argued that granny (snake) investigated you and found you to be guilty. So I'll vote to lynch lotharu as well.

As for grey fox, the best idea for him would be to go after those who are more suspicious on the town's roster.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Gear Solid - DAY 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:47 am 
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Who else is suspicious enough for him to go after?

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