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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:03 am 
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I keep thinking I'd like to play Magic, then I remember my addictive nature to TCG's and the fact that I really suck at them and the urge tends to pass.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:06 am 
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On a less corrective note, new set being spoiled! Bring grafdigger cages


Sloth told me about this card this morning. Hnnnnnnng I want it for my Heaven or Hell deck.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:32 am 
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Taruta wrote:
TORISHURAAAAAAAA!!!

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Also, Konami curves the banlist so that things that are really broken don't get hit in order to encourage certain play styles. (Like XYZ summoning)

Then again, BAN lists in general are just a tattered mess. I don't expect Konami to be changing their ways soon, Synchros are out and XYZ are in and at least Smogon does crap tons of testing before making a BAN call justified.
The Yu-Gi-Oh ban list is also terrible because they never review their old cards and un-ban them once they're not bullshit anymore. There are so many effect destroying cards that Thousand-Eyes Restrict really wouldn't be a problem anymore. At all. And there are so many worse cards out there than Chaos Emporer Dragon, Envoy of the End, or Dark Magician of Chaos. Hell, even Tribe Infecting Virus and Fiber Jar aren't as bad as other cards they're coming out with now.

And Crush Card Virus, you know how useless that is now? Decks are made up of weak monsters that all fuse together now, so the only time it'll do anything is when it's first activated.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:52 am 
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no, chaos emperor dragon needs to stay banned. so does black luster soldier. CED especially, that card is broken beyond belief. dark magician of chaos is less offensive, but easy spell revival is not something konami likes. basically, chaos monsters == ridiculous.

crush card is still powerful just because it allows you to look at your opponent's hand and next few draws at a very small cost, most decks run lots of little dark guys, tributing sangan for crush card would actually be beneficial, to make sure sangan doesn't get banished.


i agree with you though, konami really has to review older cards more carefully. blackwings would be viable if kalut, whirlwind, and maybe even gale were bumped up to 2.

some other changes i would make: d-hero malicious unrestricted, bestiari at 2, infernity launcher at 2 or 3, advanced ritual art at 3 (who even uses rituals?)

tour guide needs to be restricted, wind up hunter restricted or semi-restricted, either rescue rabbit semi-restricted or laggia restricted

but konami won't restrict those cards because they like cheddar and promoting xyz.


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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:05 am 
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Hey, I use rituals! Well only one really and that is Zorc. Because Zorc is awesome.
XYZ monsters are as far as I can tell vastly inferior to the synchro monsters, effect and stats wise. I only have 3 synchro monsters in my deck on DN but the effects are just devastating. One lets you gain LP each time you destroy a monster with it equal to its atk, the other hurts the opponent 300 LP for every card on his field every round plus 300 every time he sets a spell or trap card, and the third gets +800 atk when he destroys a monster and can attack again, which activates the effect again.
And they all have high stats and only need 2 monsters to be summoned.
Xyz monsters on the other hand can only use their effects limited times and often don't even have that high stats.

But yeah, they really should look into old cards again, to unban them or ban others.

Also funny is how there's normal 4 star monsters with 2000 atk now without any drawbacks when back then such monsters had huge drawbacks like having to tribute a monster on your field or paying 1000 life points just so they could attack.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:16 am 
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Deiphobus wrote:
advanced ritual art at 3 (who even uses rituals?)

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This archtype. Even though they don't need advance ritual because their own ritual card can recycle itself for maximum profit.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:24 am 
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Made a golden MTG deck with some extra cards I had. The only things even resembling a theme for it are that it is completely balanced between the five colors, and has only a few creatures even resembling end match material. I tried it 3 times, one of which we had to end the match early, but I had the advantage. The other two, I lost one because my opponent got loaded on mana to summon 6/6es and such, and he had a child of night with a kitesail, and I had no flying creatures. The next one I won before he could put any kind of large force out.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:02 am 
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Most Xyz monsters aren't even worth banning.
Most aren't even worth summoning.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:20 am 
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It's pretty much Utopia and Dragon spam ftm. I'm just waiting on Shock master and the Verz XYZ. Cause they just shit on everyone's day.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:32 am 
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I really want Utopia.
I can't seem to find that starter deck anymore.
It was the lest expensive one I've ever seen.

I managed to find Terror Byte.
He's... okay I guess.
His Defense is nice and his ability is not too bad.
Seeing as I would need to have some kind of wall up in the first place in order to get out three 3-star monsters, and the fact that he can only control 4-star or lower face-up attack position monsters for one turn, I would be much better off summoning a Synchro, or at least get out one of my hella deadly instant max power monsters. D-Vid knows~

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:49 am 
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Just waiting for DT07 for when all the bomb booty XYZ show up. Seriously, one is a living pot of avarice, the other is a more improved catastor, another is a foolish and top decks cards, and my personal favorite is DD Crow, Compulse and can discard a card in opponent's hand. Shit's gonna be off the chain yo.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:59 am 
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I need to come up with something to do with all the millions of +1/+1 counters i'm making in my UG modular/graft deck. I'm thinking Triskelion but I dunno.

Also Holy shit the Avacyn Restored packaging is gorgeous (spoilers I guess but I guess you could figure that out.)


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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Taruta wrote:
Deiphobus wrote:
advanced ritual art at 3 (who even uses rituals?)


This archtype. Even though they don't need advance ritual because their own ritual card can recycle itself for maximum profit.


oh, i thought the gishkis required gishki ritual cards. still though, rituals like herald of perfection require their specific ritual cards.


for the most part, xyz monsters aren't that good. but xyzs like laggia and dolkka are ridiculous, especially since you can get them out with virtually no cost (one normal summoning of rescue rabbit).


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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:40 am 
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impmon08 wrote:
I need to come up with something to do with all the millions of +1/+1 counters i'm making in my UG modular/graft deck. I'm thinking Triskelion but I dunno.

Also Holy shit the Avacyn Restored packaging is gorgeous (spoilers I guess but I guess you could figure that out.)

Aaaaaaahhh I'm so excited to get everyone's reject cards from this next set.
(since that's how I get most of my cards)


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 Post subject: Re: Card Games Thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:11 pm 
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I accumulated about 200 Yu-Gi-Oh cards in my youth without buying a single pack.

I still have my very first one.
I keep it secret. Keep it safe.

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