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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:12 pm 
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yeah well my freinds the one that made this forum and were quite the experts at zombies. our freinds are allways makin jokes sayin that when %^$& hits the fan there coming over to your house! :awesomeface:

My friends always say "Good lord, fix your grammar." And a bit of spelling. Also, you don't need to censor yourself.

Also it is, as always, hard to tell if people in this thread are joking or honestly believe flesh-eating/brain-munching zombies are a possibility.

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So why else would they crave human flesh?

No virus would survive if it made it's host unsustainable. The virus would definitely want to keep the digestion intact so it could continue absorbing nutrients.


they crave human flesh because they want to transfer the virus into another host by biteing.
youe see similar to conracting std's by sexual contact or sharing needles. once fluids are exchanged ( saliva and blood/blood and blood.) the virus is in the system. game over.

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Assuming from the previous statement, I'd say that when they devour a human corpse severely, the virus made the instinct too strong and they couldn't stop.


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[Citation Needed] wrote:
musicandilikeit wrote:
betrippin wrote:
Music knows his stuff


yeah well my freinds the one that made this forum and were quite the experts at zombies. our freinds are allways makin jokes sayin that when %^$& hits the fan there coming over to your house! :awesomeface:

My friends always say "Good lord, fix your grammar." And a bit of spelling. Also, you don't need to censor yourself.

Also it is, as always, hard to tell if people in this thread are joking or honestly believe flesh-eating/brain-munching zombies are a possibility.


http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5- ... appen.html
check and mate!!!

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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:35 pm 
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This is you, thinking that I haven't read that article.


The parasite: Humans aren't rats. We're not going to suddenly throw ourselves in front of house cats and be eaten for no reason. There aren't even enough lions/panthers/tigers/large cats to cover everyone.
Neurotoxins: The truth behind zombies is drugs - nothing terrifying, just clueless people who don't really do anything. It's where the myth came from.
Mad cow disease: Has nothing to do with zombies at all. It just makes you sick and messes with your head.
Neurogenesis: Regrows dead cells - does nothing except *gasp* regrow dead cells. HOLY SHIT UNEXPECTED
Nanobots: It's all speculation at this point.


Also allow me to introduce you to rigor mortis, which locks up corpses for three days - three days for everyone to burn them/run away. So, if there was an apocalypse, it'd be a very short one and not very apocalyptic.
Also, there is decay to consider. Give the masses of dead meat a week or two in any weather condition and they'll be down and out. Mild to hot: Rot and fall apart. Cold: Freeze solid due to not generating body heat/move sluggish and make them easy to walk up to and hit in the face with a blunt object.


OH EM GEE CHEK AND MAET!!!!1111ONE!!

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Toxoplasmosa: the problem here, unlike viral or proteinacious pathogens, the average person this parasite is only a threat to the immunologically challenged mainly, and in rare cases infects a healthy person. If in rats it doesn't render them into "mindless" so much as fearless via (I'd suspect) blocking the limbic system's fear responses. This makes sense considering most of the limbic is located near both the 3 main ventricles and all major arteries in the brain where cysts can develop, which cause the behavoiral "blockages". Even people shown infected had neither their reasoning nor upper cerebral functions inhibited such as critical spatial and logic; fear inhibition excepted. Also, the other reasons it's not a viable candidate: 1)in the immunologically challenged, the end result is lethal encephalitis 2) it already exists in many species of common felines, so we've developed enough immunity unless you change fluffy's litter with skin lesions.
Psychotropics-alkaloids: Mass administration from aerosols for example, is simply not possible, to maintain efficacy instead of diffusing in the air. And continual administration every 24-48 hrs has to be considered along with incremental increases in dosage to deter potential immunity. Also, in water systems, typically, most alkaloids are chemically "basic" and react well with water, so again, the amounts
Rage viruses: "Super viruses" that would impair only one's higher cognitive functions and pain responses isn't possible. In cases of such sudden and drastic changes, the typical pathogen (such as ebola, hanta, or marburg viruses) are typically lethal, the main reason is that the unlucky recipient can't adapt via immunity or cellular compatability before "minor" symptoms like...say...hemorrhagic fever and systemic failure. To adopt aspects from another virus, it must first have similar coding (RNA or DNA based) or too many transcription errors occur. Considering that complete and adaptable transcription is essential for viral replication, if that doesn't happen, should a virion result, it'd be dead. Regarding CKD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease), it's caused from prions (proteinacious infectious particle) which are variant proteins that are inserted into the recipient's cells similarily to viral insertion. All prion diseases are collectively known as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs), are untreatable and fatal with symptoms manifesting the most notable symptoms as it's in the worst stages.
Neurogenesis: What can be said here? Spontaneous tissue regen is currently NOT possible. That's it. Reason: at death, the circulatory system has stopped along with any waste management systems which means that the toxic and caustic chemicals that occur during decomp have no other means of disposal. And yet the machinery for either cellular maintenance or disposition have stopped so there's no way for the cells to either replicate, repair or be discarded. The 18 century experiments in neuromuscular stimulation via electrodes worked...for only a few hours to a couple days, but required an external source since any internal energy sources had long stopped (see above). As to "suspended animation" not only is the statement oxymoronic, and the article citing the experiment mentioned only 3hrs of suspension requiring a cocktail of saline and glucose and the animal subjects had to have the solution totally flushed out and replaced by their original blood (yeah, not simply any blood or can we say "rejection factor"?). Now to the headless chicken (beheaded & lived for 18 months), after thoroughly perusing this one, it's as figured, the almost all the brain and major viens/ arteries were still attached. As noted in the article, if one's brain stem is COMPLETELY severed, life stops IMMEDIATELY...NO EXCEPTIONS!
Nanobots: This was the more credible of the aforementioned ideas, however, it's unlikely that anyone would create nanbots either for rendering people as mindless automatons (zombies) or where the bots programming goes so horribly awry that they disconnect all neural functioning EXCEPT for the myelencephalon, metencephalon and mid brain. The reasons are simple, current theories in nano"bots" have one inherent programming flaw: they're soo small (the size of simple molecules), so the logic circuits capable of detailed instruction processing simply can't be installed. At best, they'd have simple "firmware" instructions for a single function, and require remote guidance to perform work. Also, if history and fiction teaches us anything, mindless subservience is a means to it's own ends. The current mass production industries such as automotive exemplify that well, you need obedient workers...THAT THINK! Even if only on minimalistic level. Therefore the operators were told to do such a thing as zombification of the entire population, the individuals involved have negated the very thing(s) you need to have a society that would support/ maintain the society in which you rely for your needs and wants. Besides, the best candidates for nanobot materials are highly susceptible to EMP's; again, no threat.

TL;DR: It can't happen.

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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:45 pm 
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Oh [CN]. You and your arbitrary skepticism.

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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
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well....you definitely went out of your way to prove a simple point and that was quite convincing so i give kudos to you and out of respect i wont even argue with you. just give this statement and no more.

"this virus does not create life, it alters it."

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This thread is like a giant rage-at-each-other party, except more civilized. :psyduck:

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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
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musicandilikeit wrote:
"this virus does not create life, it alters it."

All viruses alter life in some way. It's called "being sick".

So a zombie virus is only special in the way that it is virtually impossible.

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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: zombie apocalypse thread
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While this question is relevant and irrelevant to this particular topic, I shall ask it.
What the crap is the song Zombie, by The Cranberries, about?


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For all those serious guys out there cough[CN]cough this is a "what if" thread. Trying to take out the possibility of zombies in a zombie apocalypse thread is kind of self-deprecating. Let People have fun talking about what they would do in this situation (which is the whole point of this thread). On a side note since there are no zombies right now nor have there been any in the past so [CN]'s points have been valid BUT the future is filled with possibilities, hospitals are always create new super viruses due to over medication and a sterile environment, and we as citizens don't know what all the government research facilities in the world are doing at this moment.

So just remember what this thread is about.

p.s. keep it classy.

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hospitals are always create new super viruses due to over medication and a sterile environment


Oh gee, I wonder if this person got that from a recent cracked article.

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