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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:27 pm 
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I think that's technically her asking you out...indirectly...

...I don't know, women are weird sometimes.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
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just gonna like throw this crazy thought out there

maybe you should like

ask out

her sister

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:34 pm 
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WHY AM I SO AWKWARD WITH THE FEMALES

As in, on Friday this girl in my gym class essentially said that she think's I'm a pretty cool dude and wouldn't mind if I asked her out and I'm just like WHAT D:

asking her out wouldn't be a bad idea
unless she's a nutjob or something

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:50 pm 
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princess brothel might be onto something here.

Is her sister hot?


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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:25 pm 
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Then you can be a gentleman and treat her with respect.


I've always been curious as to what people mean by this.

Is it "respect" as in treat them as though they were the traditional female role, and you're the perfect gentlemen (holding doors for them, paying for all of the dates, threatening to fisticuff with any male who even looks at her, etc) or by the exact opposite? The former is what I've been told women don't want, and is actually defined as a non-stereotypical form of sexism while the later is what they DO want...yet...

...I don't know. Could you explain?


It means you look at her face and not her body when you are talking to each other. It means when you go out, you don't spend all night checking face book on your phone. It means don't text her asking her if she wants to bang. (The exact same stuff that applies for a girl dating a guy.)

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Treating someone with respect= don't be a dickhead.

Not being a dickhead surely is not that complex of a concept. This also means not being an asshole, not being a prick and not being a douche bag.

Basic respect doesn't change depending on what gender you're showing respect too. If a girl opens a door for a guy it doesn't mean she's some raging feminist. People open doors for each other out of politeness. People pay other people's tabs out of generosity. People pay attention to one another when talking because, again, it's the polite thing to do.

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Dire wrote:
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Then you can be a gentleman and treat her with respect.


I've always been curious as to what people mean by this.

Is it "respect" as in treat them as though they were the traditional female role, and you're the perfect gentlemen (holding doors for them, paying for all of the dates, threatening to fisticuff with any male who even looks at her, etc) or by the exact opposite? The former is what I've been told women don't want, and is actually defined as a non-stereotypical form of sexism while the later is what they DO want...yet...

...I don't know. Could you explain?


It means you look at her face and not her body when you are talking to each other. It means when you go out, you don't spend all night checking face book on your phone. It means don't text her asking her if she wants to bang. (The exact same stuff that applies for a girl dating a guy.)

As Syo said:
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Treating someone with respect= don't be a dickhead.

Not being a dickhead surely is not that complex of a concept. This also means not being an asshole, not being a prick and not being a douche bag.

Basic respect doesn't change depending on what gender you're showing respect too. If a girl opens a door for a guy it doesn't mean she's some raging feminist. People open doors for each other out of politeness. People pay other people's tabs out of generosity. People pay attention to one another when talking because, again, it's the polite thing to do.


I do all and/or none of that, yet am still single and still get the advice "Treat her with respect". Basically, I'll treat women like I would anyone of either gender, which includes the all and/or none of what you've told me, and ain't no shit happening. And when I've reached this point, people start telling me "Well you just gotta start bein' more alpha" which, funny enough, goes against everything that was just established as "respect."

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:45 pm 
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Dude no one can tell you how to girl.

Treating someone with respect is not going to make you not single. You should treat everyone with respect whether you're romantically interested or not, so it's not something special really.

Is it too vague to just be yourself and treat a person how they would like to be treated? You only forge relationships with people you show an interest in. Show interest in people and they will show interest in you.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
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In my opinion its not about finding any random girl off the street and saying OH THIS IS Sailor Moon I TREAT HER GREAT.

You actully have to go out and FIND the person your compadable with.

You cant just expect someone to fall into your lap swooning over your swauve manleness.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
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Reyo wrote:
Basically, I'll treat women like I would anyone of either gender

this might be your problem here. women are extremely complex, and they're all different
you cant really talk to a chick you just met at a party the same way you would with a friend you've known for years
some girls are more sensitive than others, and you have to treat them accordingly. on the other hand, I know a handful of girls who don't mind be treated like 'one of the guys'
that being said, and I may just be rephrasing what vax wrote, but there is no surefire guaranteed 100% way to get a girl to like you

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:54 pm 
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i HAVE the date

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
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Vax wrote:
Dude no one can tell you how to girl.

Treating someone with respect is not going to make you not single. You should treat everyone with respect whether you're romantically interested or not, so it's not something special really.

Is it too vague to just be yourself and treat a person how they would like to be treated? You only forge relationships with people you show an interest in. Show interest in people and they will show interest in you.


That's half of what I'm saying. It makes no sense to offer the advice "Just treat them with respect" because I'd hope that people were doing that already. When people ask how to girl, it's usually because what they're doing isn't working, and when you say "Show them respect", it's suggestive that you're not doing so already. Whenever someone does have that as their golden advice, all I can say is "uh...okthanks...?"

And yes, it is pretty vague to go with "just be yourself". After all............I'm ALWAYS myself.

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Reyo wrote:
Basically, I'll treat women like I would anyone of either gender

this might be your problem here. women are extremely complex, and they're all different
you cant really talk to a chick you just met at a party the same way you would with a friend you've known for years
some girls are more sensitive than others, and you have to treat them accordingly. on the other hand, I know a handful of girls who don't mind be treated like 'one of the guys'
that being said, and I may just be rephrasing what vax wrote, but there is no surefire guaranteed 100% way to get a girl to like you


That was said with respect to...respect. I treat women when it comes to respect the same way I do either gender, as in a respect everyone (until they give me a very distinct reason not to.) I know very well how different you're supposed to act when it comes to different situations.

Besides, that piece of advice conflicts with the other gem of "Just treat them how you would anyone else". I've gotten that one a lot.

I don't really ever want generic information on how to girl. Whenever I do ask for advice, it's given a very specific situation with a certain girl where I'll be very detailed over what happens/ed. Then when people still give me the "just treat her with respect" line I get peeved to all holy hell, which I know I shouldn't do since people are just trying to help, but...goddamn...you know?

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:17 am 
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I haven't been on a date since November

And it seems like this one isn't a mentally unsound homophobic wolfaboo hetalia fan!

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
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Reyo, I'm not sure why you're even debating about this. If you agree that 'showing people respect' is common sense then it technically isn't wrong to tell someone this even if it doesn't guarantee them a date.

Furthermore that 'vague' line was aimed at Creaky. I wasn't actually offering advice.
I didn't want to bring it up but it was sort of as a warning, since last time people encouraged him to talk to a girl, it didn't work out. To be honest I hope that whole thing was an elaborate joke.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dating Stories/Progress thread
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:37 am 
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Also, Reyo, you're missing a very important thing here. When you ask someone "How do I girl", it is a question IN GENERAL, so you can't get annoyed when someone gives you A GENERAL answer such as "treat her with respect" or "be yourself", no?
If you have your eyes on a specific girl, and you talk to someone who knows them, only then do you get specific answers and no general advice. Sometimes I see people talking about girls like we're some sort of different species, you can't generalize girls like you can generalize boys, every person is an individual and different from each other. If you want specific answers, ask about a specific person - and not for general advice.

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