Turnabout Cherry Court Chip Mafia DAY 8

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 2:43 am

If it would please the court, I would like to be able to have a nice defence ready before I am lynched, since I don't have time right now to finish what I want to say, please think over what I have said before you decide to kill another towny.

Zorinth · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:11 pm **Posts:** 2168

The first time, as I have said, I worded it badly, but I was stating his work schedule, not to kill him off, but so people would know when he was off, to give him a chance if they so chose. I put my vote out due to being unsure of weather I would be on later that night. People themselves chose to kill him before the time I stated, I can't take the blame on that. Also if I wanted to kill him before he came back, why would I let you all know when he would be back, that would only lead to something like this, vs not saying anything which would make me look like any other person here. If I were mafia why would I want people to notice me.
On the second one it was only because D-vid started the vote against dragoon, or at least randomed him, it was about the only thing I could go along with that was not 100% random. Besides Sol has made good points on every spot, if our ideas are similar why not go with em?

Nefarious Bear · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 5:46 am

Can GM update us with the current votes?

Galaxy Man · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 5:57 am

Bacon - Nefarious
Sol Reaper - Noffletoff
Darkin - Sol Reaper
Zorinth - Noffletoff
D-vid - Nefarious
Crisp - No lynch
Potato - Noffletoff
AngelicSongx - Noffletoff
Flicky - Noffletoff
saximaphone - Nefarious
Coriserai - Noffletoff
Need_Runes4 - Nefarious
Nefarious - Nefarious

still takes 4 votes to off noffletoff
5 to take out nefarious

edit: whoops for some reason i thought it took 9 votes to lynch

edit 2: wait fuck hold on again missing a few votes because apparently i have no idea i should not be doing this at 4 am

edit 3: okay that should be good

Flicky · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 6:12 am

can you make it so all votes for each specific person are together

i can't count when two names that are very similar looking are right next to eachother

Noffletoff
Nefarious

you see how confusing that is

Sol Reaper · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 7:31 am

So Noff, are you saying that townies should never team up ever? I'm pretty sure not every townie has a such a wildly different personality that would cause their ideas to be different enough to not agree with. And in both cases it wasn't blind lemming following, we each agreed with the other with some sort of reasoning.

However, we'll see. We can lynch Noff today, and if he turns out to be a townie then you can toss me away in revenge.

Tetrunes · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 8:51 am

We've lost 3 townies.
There are 10 townies left, and 9 others.
If Noff is a townie, that will leave us at 8 townies, 6 mafia, and 3 Yatagaagyhsdf

I personally don't like these odds.

Given that Sol went against Noff yesterday, it seems supisious that Sol went againts Noff yesterday, and it didn't take that long for a bandwagon to form.

I'm voting no lynch

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 10:44 am

Alright, let's pop this cherry.

First off, let's point out some more similarities between you two.

Sol Reaper wrote:

I still don't see the appeal in lynching Nefarious. He hasn't done anything other than "Guise stop being stupid". I'm laying my vote on Noffletoff for the reasons I outlined earlier.

Namely that he got twitchy for seemingly no reason (but I say it's because I accused him first day)

Zorinth wrote:

I don't think going after Nef is a great idea, he hasn't been jumpy, only saying things that make sense. Since there is only one other I vote to Off Noff

Both of you are trying to defend Neffy and getting votes onto me.

Sol Reaper wrote:

My random compass points to D-vid this time. Take it for what you will, random is random.

Zorinth wrote:

Ok, first thing, no power role will reveal themselves now, that would be a bad idea. Second, gumshoe is useless, as they may get a guilty one time, then innocent on the same person if investigated. The role is a town role that was negative towards the town like framed innocents.
And last: I am with sol Lynch D-vid

You both agree to "Randomly" Start to lynch D-vid, which starts to fail, and everyone starts to suspect Neffy, at which point both of you start to defend him.

Zorinth wrote:

And last: I am with sol Lynch D-vid

You start a vote to D-Vid, but...

Zorinth wrote:

All right, switching mine to Undecided since I'm not sure who right now.

When it came to Neffy, you switched to undecided, I guess that's kool...

Sol Reaper wrote:

I still don't see the appeal in lynching Nefarious. He hasn't done anything other than "Guise stop being stupid". I'm laying my vote on Noffletoff for the reasons I outlined earlier.

Namely that he got twitchy for seemingly no reason (but I say it's because I accused him first day)

Zorinth wrote:

I don't think going after Nef is a great idea, he hasn't been jumpy, only saying things that make sense. Since there is only one other I vote to Off Noff

Except right after Sol Reaper decided to Lynch me, you vote to lynch me right after.

Noffletoff wrote:

I'm going to have to go with either Sol Reaper or Neffy, they are both pretty jumpy too me.

Sol Reaper wrote:

I've only made one post this day and I'm "too jumpy" to you? Or perhaps you're calling me out because of the fact I voted to lynch you last round (Day 1), which was randomly decided. Nefarious isn't suspicious, he's calling into question a good point: no good power role will show themselves this early in the game. But wait, he's yelling at us and getting irritated? HE MUST BE MAFIA LYNCH HIM. Townies aren't always nice or completely polite. You can't go off of irritation (for something rational, no less) to pick a lynch target. Sure it has to be random since we don't have proof, but calling him "jumpy" just because of a harsh demeanor isn't doing us any favors.

Now as for you lynching me. I can't make a defense against myself because honestly nobody's actually accused me of anything. I suppose I'm going to fall victim to the RNG and we'll be down a guy, but give some thought to what I said first. I accused Noff first round out of pure randomness (it was Day 1, there were no leads), and now he gets skittish and calls me jumpy when I've been completely calm and collected the entire game. Keep in mind, too, that he didn't lead the lynches against me for fear of being labeled Mafia, he (wisely, I might add) waited until someone else brought my name into the picture before starting to bandwagon. So in light of this, I change my vote back to Undecided, because Noff's behavior is making me suspicious, but as Flicky said we need to wait for everyone to speak.

Right as I point you two out, you jump on me, trying to persuade people that I have a vendetta against you because you tried to start a lynch wagon against me, even though I was in no danger of being lynched, you state you are being calm about this, and yet, you and Zornith are trying so hard to not get neffy lynched, and agree on so many things? I'm sorry if I can actually see stuff like this.

So Town, what say you, do you really think that I am being paranoid now? Is this not enough proof too show that these three are possibly working together somehow? The only thing against me is that I had suspicion against Sol and Neffy, and now I have a lot more reason to be suspicious.

Gryewolf · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 10:48 am

Huh, well to be honest it seems kinda solid.
I'll vote to Lynch Nef

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 10:49 am

Nefarious Bear wrote:

Really? I complain about this EVERY GAME. And yet you guys do the same exact thing. But if I'm being "jumpy" for "no reason", Then let me help you with that bandwagon you have on me.

Lynch Nefarious

Oh also, this means nothing, just a gamble to help persuade the townies against me, he could always just change his vote back, he was hoping he could gain sympathy though townies by making them believe a mafia wouldn't try to kill themselves, while it did work, Neffy has nothing to prove he is not mafia, he hasn't tried to defend himself.

Turbro · **Joined:** Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:11 am **Posts:** 5475

We'll be able to see if whose right once Nef is lynched. If he's town then I'd go against who tried starting the votes against him in the first place, if he's Guilty, then we move onto Zor and Sol
I have a feeling Zor and Sol might be Yattagarasu. It's unusual to see members of the mafia have such similar posts.

Sol Reaper · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 12:32 pm

Noffletoff wrote:

you state you are being calm about this, and yet, you and Zornith are trying so hard to not get neffy lynched, and agree on so many things?

How does that make me not calm, exactly?

And I can't account for the fact that everything Zorinth has done/said happens to mirror what I have done/said. Either I have that much of a sway over him for some reason or he's trying to get me implicated by acting as though I'm in cahoots with him. However, as I've said before, it's not the end of the world if two townies are on the same wavelength. In my opinion the argument that I'm guilty because of what someone else is doing is actually kind of weak.

As for "jumping on you"; I'm confident in my suspicion of you, and the prospect of getting lynched honestly doesn't appeal to me, especially if you start or add to the bandwagon.

Need_Runes4 wrote:

it seems supisious that Sol went againts Noff yesterday, and it didn't take that long for a bandwagon to form.

My first vote today was against D-vid. I can't control what other people do.

Sol Reaper · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 12:35 pm

And Turbo, we don't know if Nef is guilty or not, I'm defending him against suspicion because he hasn't done anything suspicious. My logic says that to find out who's right or not is to lynch Noffletoff because 1) I'm accusing him and 2)He's accusing me (maybe not exact accusations but the implications are definitely there).

Zorinth · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:11 pm **Posts:** 2168

Me and Sol do think similar things here, but they are all in sound reasoning's. If I am wrong about Noff, who more and more I am being lead into thinking noff is mafia, then you can all go at me, one more townie lynch will be bad, but worth the risk if you think I am mafia. I am willing to risk that in order to take out someone I suspect of being mafia.

Zorinth · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:11 pm **Posts:** 2168

Also is it worth 2 mafia risking them self to take out 1 townie, not really, that would put the mafia at a huge disadvantage. They would then have 2 highly suspected members. No mafia members would do that, as in this game it might be worth 2 townies for a mafia member to give themselves away, but not 2 townies for 2 members. Also, if you suspect us of being mafia, wouldn't letting yourself be a sacrifice to prove it be more beneficial to the town then living? If you are not mafia your death would then probably cause both me and Sol to be lynched. You dying has a lot more gain then loss, and in a game where you want the town to win, why not give yourself up to do it?

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