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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:48 pm 
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So, here were the votes from yesterday towards Slob:

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Crisp - MAFIA
Reyo

These are the ones we should work on. Ideally, I'd like to go back and see who was wishy washy or just voted to end the day/with little reason. If you're innocent and on this list, I'd start rationalizing your past posts, and make this easier for us (no saying "Oh god, I'm innocent I tells ya!").

also, interestingly, we had a couple of votes for people other than slob:

TurboPunz - Reyo
SaintCrazy - Tammerath

It would be smart for the mafia to either keep some members from voting (especially the Godfather) or intentionally go against the lynch to seem innocent. IIRC, Turbo suspected Runes of being scum for trying to out the Gunsmith and seeming shady, which seems pretty logical. Saint, however, might need to tell us why Tam was suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:59 pm 
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I'm automatically suspicious of anyone who voted to lynch Slob. I don't think they're all mafia, but some have got to be.

Well the problem with that is that to lynch anyone you need a lot of votes. If you get suspicious of anyone voting to lynch someone who dies you're automatically suspecting half the innocent people which is not that smart.
Especially if you then vote for one of them, they are innocent and then it's you who gets lynched "because you bandwaggoned against lynched person last day".

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:09 pm 
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Even so, the likelihood of Crisp being the only mafia who jumped on the bandwagon is low, especially with how long the day was dragging on with little results.

If we look at the numbers, there were 14 people alive yesterday. 8 voted to lynch Slob (one of which was mafia). This leaves 6 more people. Slob didn't vote and was innocent, and two other people voted for other people. This leaves 3 people who didn't vote or weren't Slob (which includes me).

Since there's 4 more mafia out there, at least one of them had to vote. Two if you trust that I'm innocent.

As far as I can tell looking back, Runes seems innocent. Runes was willing to lynch Crisp on a random lynch. If Runes was mafia, it'd be weird to suggest lynching a fellow mafia.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:11 pm 
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Well, at least we got one mafia. I have a couple sneaking suspicions as to who could be scum, but I'll reserve final judgement until I can determine if the pattern I think I'm seeing holds up.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:14 pm 
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That still makes a coinflip at best. And it isn't too far away that many innocents started voting for the bandwagon instead of letting another no Lynch day happen which arguably would have been worse than random lynching (if crisp hadn't died in the night which no one could anticipate).

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:19 pm 
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I'm not saying the ONLY reason to lynch someone is based on their past votes, but it is a place to start.

Kamak wrote:
Saint, however, might need to tell us why Tam was suspect.


I did when I voted, but I'll explain it again since I got largely ignored (which, for the record, plays a big part in my suspicions). I posted at the bottom of page 9, and only got a direct response from Reyo.

I voted for Tammerath largely because of his behavior throughout the thread, which, in light of Crisp's death, actually seems similar to Crisp's behavior. He has played mostly passively, only jumping in to join bandwagons in order to end the day faster.

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After looking back through the thread, my current suspicion is towards Tammerath. The only thing he has contributed to the discussion is an eagerness to lynch and get the day over with. It's understandable, but he has contributed nothing to the discussion of who might be guilty or innocent, or what strategies we should take

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:29 pm 
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The mafia went after me probably, I was given a gun (as well as a hooking) on night 2. I can't see why they would go after me, aside from one of two reasons:
1) Trying to pin shit on Reyo, whom I suspected.
2) Actually having Reyo be mafia and going after me for suspecting him.

Two doesn't seem likely given that if I hadn't had the gun, you'd all be looking for who i suspected. It's too obvious a move.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:30 pm 
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On second thought, i haven't gotten a PM about using my gun, so it seems like I wasn't the target after all.

Whoops playing my cards early. At least I won't be mafia'd now.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:32 pm 
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Maybe it's so obvious on purpose so we don't suspect Reyo because it's so obvious?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:33 pm 
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Doesn't matter anyway, whoever was gone after was one of the other gun holders (potentially 2)

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
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My reason is unfortunately to get the day over with. I don't have powers, and there's no investigative role to make this a game of mental gymnastics. The only "evidence" we had agaisnt slob was that he hadn't posted anything, and that even if I hit a villager then at least it was jsut a quiet one who didn't contrubute to the game.

Now, Kamak, I had a thought a second ago and I forgot the thought process leading up to it, but I'm guessing you were the one who shot in self defense last night? Again I forget just what it was that led me to that conclusion.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
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I remember in one of the early posts somebody pointing out that the Original Post should add that Millers show up as Vanilla Mafia.
Does anybody know if that's the case? Because if so, Crisp could be a miller.


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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:37 pm 
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As far as I know, I don't have a gun.

All I know is that I made sweet spontaneous love to a hooker on Night 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:38 pm 
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Millers only show up as Mafia if they're lynched by the town.

If they die at night, they're revealed as Millers.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Alec wrote:
I remember in one of the early posts somebody pointing out that the Original Post should add that Millers show up as Vanilla Mafia.
Does anybody know if that's the case? Because if so, Crisp could be a miller.

Millers only show up as mafia if they're lynched.

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