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Clinical psychologists are also a bit more mindful than that. They're trained where "no problem" isn't the answer (otherwise they wouldn't be there) and keeping the diagnoses from being the identifying, crippling thing. If someone is just slightly sad, then it's neither that they "have no problem" nor "are depressed", it's that they have slight depression. It prevents labeling, which is where people get that "I'm crazy" feeling from while proving a diagnoses, which prevents the issues with "you don't actually have a problem, get out".

I understand that it's the perception of everyone outside of psychology that's doing it, but it's purely that.

EDIT: the main problem, though, is that the only way society will be able to "grow up" is when they just up and go to a psychologist to realize that it isn't the 60s anymore, where just going to a psychologist risked becoming a part of some LSD experiment.

Your family might be different, but I'm pretty sure that most people don't consider depression to be crazy. Extreme manic-depressive disorder, sure. But depression on its own, not so much.

He's not saying people view those with depression as being crazy, but that people think those who go to psychiatrists must have something wrong with them.

Psychietry is also a different bit than psychology. People go to a psychologist because there's something not quite right, and are then referred to psychiatrists if it turns out that something is serious. People just need to learn that psychologists are simply individuals with a little more knowledge of how the human mind functions and not people looking to label people as "crazy".

Huh. I never went to a psychologist. Just straight to a psychiatrist and sometimes a therapist. Didn't even know clinical psychologists were a thing.

Well it's traditionally how it's "supposed" to work though you can end up going to a psychiatrist through court mandating, via doctor's orders ,or from just going from free will.

And clinical psychologists are just psychologists, as in the guys who sit in a chair and ask "and how does that make you feel?" when you tell them about your mother. If you go to any university and ask for the psychology department, chances are most of the professors will be clinical psychologists.

My family is actually kinda open about that stuff. My mom works with special needs kids so she knows how important treatment is.

She'd be more apt to kick my booty if I didn't tell her I wanted to see a psychiatrist.

But a lot of people I see think you only go to a psychiatrist when you're a "lost cause". Those people that have to be taken out in a strait jacket as they're screaming and crying, and who belong in a padded cell. But there's a whole spectrum of issues that getting professional help is necessary to function better, even if it's a "small tune-up" in a sense.

To them though, going to a psychiatrist is tantamount to admitting you belong in an asylum. People just didn't do it, and the people who did had major problems back in the day.

It's kinda like the abortion/birth control shock that some people go through, where the concept of being so blasé about going to a psychiatrist or psychologist is unsettling.

Those same people are extremely misguided when it comes to psychological care. Besides, the issue was that the psychologist would "go insane" by hearing his friend's problems with depression, which is just a silly assumption to make. What would most likely the happen, if it really were depression, is the psychologist would establish why they feel depressed, and then the two of them would undergo cognitive therapy to change his perception on those things. There would be no loony bin for either of them.

Yeah, I think I'll try and get him to get help. Riku, I agree with you. I honestly think he was being a drama queen when he said that. I don't know if I'd be able to tell his parents. Mostly because he lives on the other side of town. I don't know how they'd react to this too. But, what if he doesn't want the help?

Pepper this is supposed to be a serious discussion topic. Please keep it that way.

I'd say those people in that post are the same type of people that support the WBC, and you really can't take what they do as Christian. They just like to piss people off to get people mad at them so that they will get hurt and have a reason to sue someone for a quick buck.

Also, some Atheists say similar things about Christians, don't act like they don't.

Really those people fall into the category of "hateful, bigoted people" before any other category. These people exist in every group, Christian, atheist, whatever.

Sure, but when they arent actually going against the groups rules, or rather, when your group is so splintered that no consensus exists, then you cant claim that they arent part. For example, christians cant actually say that the douchebags arent part of the religion, because they are two different interpretations of the same text, its a No True Scottsman fallacy. Atheists cant claim that the dickheads arent "real" atheists, because atheisms only rule is that you dont think there's a divine power behind creation. Any further political or moral beliefs beyond that is inconsequential.

By that logic all humans are awful people too, it's flawed reasoning.
edit: okay this this kinda a dumb example but it's still flawed reasoning