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I really think men don't deserve any reproductive rights because they aren't pushing a (roughly)8 pound mass of muscle, and skeleton out of a (roughly)5 inch hole. also, wear a goddamn condom.

I could go through that list in depth but I'm not convinced I'll change your mind, so I won't bother.

What are reproductive rights?

In this case, I think it has to do with mens say in wether or not sex should result in a baby? Or wether or not a woman they got pregnant should have an abortion.

Ultimately though, custody rights and child support should be decided as for what's best for the child. Yes, there are some scumbag dads that should absolutely have nothing to do with their kids and the only way to get them out of that situation is if the mom has child support. But there are some really scummy moms out there that don't deserve custody of their kids but get it anyways because 9 months of carrying them around entitles them to fuck up their child's life if they wish to.

Disregarding what's fair to the men, this is absolute bullshit for the children, who never asked to be put in this situation and don't get a choice because they're too young. But being too young doesn't mean you can't find out from the source whether one parent neglects the kid or outright abuses them.

Am I allowed to make comments on some points of that list? I don't come here often, so I'm not so sure about etiquette here.


While the violent crime bit may be true, saying that men are raped more often that women is utter bullshit.

Isn't this because the majority of employees at dangerous places where workplace deaths are likely are men? This seems like more of a situational thing, not societal oppression.

In the same vein as above, isn't this because there are more male criminals than females?

Also, I agree with Kamak.

Please do. It wouldn't be much of a discussion if nobody makes any arguments. Admittedly, I think much of the list is stupid. Some of it is irrelevant. However the legal system has generally been more relaxed while dealing with women.

That being said, I am not saying womens rights don't matter. I want absolute equality. Not a society that is leaning one way or another.

Pretty much this. Everyone freaks out over who gets custody over a kid who was unintentionally conceived and "pregnancy" is always used as some kind of veto. It's not quite that black and white where the best solution sits solely on the mother's hands because "pregnancy." Ether parent is capable of being the better\worse parent. Sometimes the case is that NEITHER parent should get the kid. The entire situation needs to be considered, not just the physical aspect of carrying the kid for 9 months.

Men in the US are also the only ones that can be drafted. Either change the selective service laws to include everyone, or remove the option of the draft outright.

As well, men in the US are the only ones who can get their genitals mutilated upon birth without consent. Female genital mutilation is wrong, but male genital mutilation is A-OK. The laws that enable male circumcision without consent should be removed, and instead men should be allowed to, when they're old enough, make a decision about it themselves. That, or for complete equality, ban circumcision.

no disagreement here. Have you heard of a certain Susan B. Anthony?

I don't think this is a instance of women oppressing men?

I don't have a problem with dudes objecting to this really.

likewise

I'm not so sure it's equivalent but circumcision shouldn't against one's will one way or another.

I guess that's a shocking result of men working more than women. stupid stupid stupid. Also not sourced.

Not sourced. which sort of men are being talking about? rich, poor, young, old?

not sourced again. I'd guess that's because people find men simply more threatening. Black men are the biggest demographic in prison in proportion to how much of the population they represent for this reason.

Perhaps because women and minorities have to over compensate just to appear on the level with men? I dunno, just speculating here.

Women who actually raped get all of that and more.

let me reiterate that dudes should wear a fucking condom.

Gender roles at play hoorah. notions of parenthood are fucked up in the world, not gonna lie.

No goddamn source. But if it's true I'll bet it's because most are also veterans. and veterans are mostly male because more men serve than women.

what the hell this is probably the stupidest thing. I'm not even gonna comment on it.

This is because men are still the majority and still make most of the cheddar in the world? same reason first nation people get lots of help, they need it.

banning people merely because they might be pedophiles is dumb but I can see the logic.

are the investigative board robots now? that link seems to be completely unrelated to the point that the statement was making.

Isolated case. I think as a white dude he'll be okay.

Wah wah wah when was the last time selective service actually used.



I think reproductive rights and parental rights are being sorta blurred here. I think without exception that the woman in a relationship should be the one to decide to have a child. She's free to listen to the prospective father if she wants to, but she should never be forced into something she doesn't want. Once the baby is actually born and for whatever reason the parents want a divorce, then yes I think the two of them should have a equal chance custody wise.


That's really a fault of the religious majority, a bunch of old white dudes.

Yes, those circumstances are the fault of the religious majority and those in power (It's not just "old white dudes" anymore), but they are still still inequalities that should be eradicated.

Then we're talking about 2 very different things. You're talking about the physical pregnancy where we're talking about the continued life of the actual child. I'm glad you're willing to see that a man should at least have a say in custody though. Too much I've seen that the mother gets absolute say in where the kid goes, assuming the kid even lives to birth.

It mostly is. White dudes are still the majority.

So it's still true the majority of people in power areold white dudes. However, do you believe that those circumstances make inequalities such as selective service or circumcision acceptable?

Isnt circumsision for male babies still legal because no one has bothered to reappeal it? I dont agree with it, but I dont think its much of a social problem if no one can be assed to have it taken away.

No?

let me ask again, when was the last time america used selective service?


It's basically tradition at this point. Though a few guys have genuine medical issues that can be cleared up with a circumcision.