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 Post subject: Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:20 am 
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Most of us are polite when it comes to how smoking bothers us. Which is why you never hear us complain. Just cough.
Standing behind some and constantly hacking at them is hardly polite. I'm not sure how you construed that. A polite approach would be something along the lines of "pardon me sir, I'm afraid your smoke is making me unwell, would you be so kind as to move over some?" Or, radically enough, moving away quietly yourself?


Because usually, when something is making someone unwell, it presents itself in some displeasing sign, like hacking and coughing. It usually doesn't present itself as a British butlerish demeanor.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:22 am 
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. No way of knowing they were approaching, no way of seeing them, just making everyone in the crowd suck fumes. If I had less self-control I would have grabbed it from their hand and stuffed it into their mouth.

Pretty bold to expect politeness and consideration for others when you give none.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:31 am 
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Madican wrote:
It's a little hard to talk when your throat has begun to seal itself shut and breathing has just become hard to impossible. Same with the moving away bit. When it's a bad attack my mom needs our help to get away from the area to use her inhaler and is out of commission for anywhere from an hour to days depending how bad the attack was.
An extreme case and an emphatic reaction; certainly quite unfortunate, but hardly the norm.

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Smokers are not visible in crowded areas. The first warning we get when out and about is when her voice suddenly goes raspy and we start actively scanning for whoever has a cigarette nearby. Hell we've had people walk behind us with a lit one and that triggered it. No way of knowing they were approaching, no way of seeing them, just making everyone in the crowd suck fumes.
Terribly rude, I agree, but smoking has a hobby doesn't necessitate that one needs to actively seek out the maximum amount of people to offend, does it?

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If I had less self-control I would have grabbed it from their hand and stuffed it into their mouth.
Aren't you an excellent chap, then.

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Because usually, when something is making someone unwell, it presents itself in some displeasing sign, like hacking and coughing. It usually doesn't present itself as a British butlerish demeanor.
I thought Omnithea meant more along the lines that he'd follow around behind said smokers, coughing loudly and intentionally in an attempt to make them go away. Obviously coughing a few times as a bodily reaction can hardly be considered rude, but there are many people who will follow you around intentionally making horrible hacking noises instead of just either walking away or asking you to move, which, really, is hardly polite.


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No. I wouldn't do that. Those people irritate me. Replacing spoken language with noise. A terrible trend.

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I would also say that just following someone around is its own kind of annoyance. Who does that, seriously?

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Yeah I don't cough around smokers to be rude. I just can't help it. Smoke makes my throat and lungs tickle.

And when over half of the people in my school smoke, I'm guaranteed to pass a smoker on my way to class. Especially near the benches. despite smoking having been banned to the outer edges of the campus.

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i posted this in the main chat already but since i've been sick lately i cough a lot and it's been happening around smokers frequently and i feel like a giant jerk because i don't want them to think i'm judging them

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I never have that problem.

Usually because when I should be worried about whether or not they think I'm judging them, I'm just judging them.

Then again it's been a while since I've been around a smoker who I would consider "obnoxious". It's probably because I spend 90% of my time around the University, which I believe banned smoking????*unsure*

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I for one love the smell of cigarette smoke. Also, what does cis stand for, exactly? I can't seem to find a proper definition


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It means "on the same side as", whereas trans means "on the other side as". Both are antonyms, and when used to denote gender, cis means you are male with a male gender, and trans means you are male with a female gender. This can be applied to fats as well and other chemicals.

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thanks for clearing that one up. i thought it was the initialisation of "constructs in sex".


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it baffles me how some guys think that women owe them their vaginas because they were "nice" to them

i just don't understand how a mind can work that way

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Part of it is the socialization. There are tons of movies, for example, where you have a male protagonist who overcomes a conflict, whatever it is, and gets the girl as a reward. So there's kind of this social expectation that if a guy does things right, getting the girl just naturally happens, but that's not the reality. Then the guy gets mad at the girl because his expectations weren't met.

I'm generalizing, obviously, but this mindset is surprisingly common.

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Many of those same guys have a lack of balls. They won't ask a girl out directly, instead trying to be friends first (sound familiar, AZ?). The guy thinks that they're becoming closer romantically, while the girl thinks they're still just friends. Once the revelation comes, he'll think she had been leading him on because of the fact that she never outright said that they wouldn't date.

Is it a shitty thing to do? Yes.

Is is understandable? Also yes.

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Sometimes it's just a communication issue, where the guy thinks the girl has a romantic interest, but the girl thinks they're just friends. This can make the guy feel led on, because guys often try to win favour by buying expensive gifts and dinner. The solution is simple, talk to each other make clear what your relationship is about. Two tips for both sides: girls, if a guy is overly nice to you, especially compared to how he is to other people (not that he might be less nice, just show less attention or do less favours for them), he probably has a 'special' interest in you. Guys, take the hint. If she ain't interested, that's the way things are.


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