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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:36 am 
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Yes, actually they are. They're the race of humans closest to the gods, as such they have pointed ears and a penchant for magic. However, they're still just human. Twilight Princess flat out confirms this, with multiple people referring to Link as a human.

The Twilight Princess Link was human. As is the Link from Skyward Sword (technically Skyloftian, but they were humans, so) and possibly other Links.

This is why I specifically chose the Link from Ocarina of Time. He's the only one with a certain Hylian lineage.

And keep in mind, Zelda's kinda iffy about their "races" (the term they use for them) of species. It seems some can cross-breed (humans and gerudos, which can only result in more gerudos) and others can't (How the hell are more Gorons gotten if they're all male?). At the very least, they're different than actual humans, something that's been consistent since the beginning.



Except having a certain hylian lineage doesn't matter, because being hylian is still being human.
Hylian is a race of humans, not a separate species that are just close to human. So regardless of how pure hylian they are, they're still human.

Not to mention that the Skyward Sword Link was bodaciously one of the first hylians. If he was considered human, then OoT Link is sure as hell human, especially seeing as they're the same soul constantly reincarnated.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:46 am 
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A soul being reincarnated (which isn't even canon but speculation) does not make the species of the individual. Besides which, this throws a wrench into that theory when the literal soul of OoT Link talked to TP Link. Can't talk to yourself, man.

The humans of skyloft were called humans and skyloftians. The term hylian, and the traits common to hylians, did not start in the canon until after the establishment of Hyrule, and given how much species change in the Zelda canon (Zora to Rito, and Kokiri to Korok), Hylians are just as likely to have become their own "race" seperate from humans and then later died out (see the Gerudo).

But anyways, I'll leave it to Oolrich.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:51 am 
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Except that's not what happened?

Do just a little bit of research on the subject. It's pretty factual and understood that hylians are just a race of humans. Not a different species.

Also the skyloftians are hylians, but before hyrule came about and the name of the race was changed to reflect that.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:39 am 
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Let's just agree that Zelda is not a series that likes to be clear on a lot of things, and that enjoys contradicting itself (there are humans with pointy ears that are not hylians in some games, and in others, it's the sole/main indicator of hylians, and in some games, there are even hylians depicted as normal humans, but distinct from them). I've played every Zelda game and all of them seem to have a different take on Hylians.

OoT itself classifies both humans and Hylians as terms for groups of people, with Link being one of the last of the latter.

Whether it's an arbitrary distinction or an actual difference is up to Oolrich.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:43 am 
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i say keep the bonus round. You've given us pretty simple rules so far and the bonus one is a nice monkey wrench in the works.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round V
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bonus rounds are fun. It gives a chance to be needlessly obtrusive without screwing people up for the rest of the game.

Also, wasn't this round 6?

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - ROUND SIX
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:08 am 
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Herp derp I forgot to edit the main post that round...dammit
And I'm sorry Kamak, but I'm counting Hylians as humans. You are now ELIMINATED. You make a nice sploosh sound when you hit the water
Anywho, that was fast ON TO ROUND 7
THREE REMAIN
Also I wasn't aware Harpuia was playable... or that Zero 3 had minigames...

Today's Rule: It's dangerous to go alone, take a friend! Your character must fight/play/whatever with an ally by their side for at least part of the game you choose to represent them from. They are not required to have an ally the whole time. You must post who the ally is, but the ally will not count for characters used. MULTIPLAYER ONLY ALLIES DO NOT COUNT

THE BONUS: Ladies night! Character must be female

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Ace Combat 6-Talisman
Advance Wars-Sami
Amnesia: The dark descent-Daniel
Animal Crossing-The Villager
Assassins Creed-Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad
Batman Arkham Asylum-Batman
Darksiders 2-Death--Uses Guns
Dark Souls-The Chosen Undead
Dig Dug-Dig Dug
Donkey Kong-Jumpman
Dragon Ball Z Budkaiwhatever-Piccolo (DOOOOODGE)
Grand Theft Auto IV-Nico Bellic
Just Cause 2-Rico Rodriguez
Kirby Pinball Land-Blade Knight
Knuckles Chaotix-Vector the Crocodile
Legend of Zelda OoT-Link Hylians are human
Little Samson-The Kid
Luminous Arc 2-Rasche
Megaman Zero 3-Sage Harpuia
Monster Tale-Ellie
NiGHTS-NiGHTS
Pikmin-Captain Olimar
Pilotwings Resort-Mii
Professor Layton-Professor Layton Uses a (cartoonish) gun
Rhythm Theif-Charlie
Rock of Ages-The Rock
Sinistar-Sinistar
Sonic Adventure 2-Cream the Rabbit
Splinter Cell series-Sam Fisher--More than 3 games
SSX 3-Viggo Rolig
Super Mario Advance-Luigi
Super Meat Boy-Meat Boy
Super Monkey Ball-Aiai
Thomas was alone-Thomas
Touhou 13.5-Toyosatomimi no Miko
Viewtiful Joe-Viewtiful Joe
Wrestlemania 2000-The Rock

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:54 am 
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Do remakes count towards the amount of Game appearances?

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
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Remakes do not, as they are the same game, neither will cross platform ports of the same game count. Must be completely different

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:33 pm 
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Very well then, I shall use Mima from Touhous 1, 2, 3, and 5! (Touhou 13.5 is a spinoff, and the series had a reboot at game 6.)
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She uses her magic to shoot lasers at you, not guns.
She has green hair, and is playable in Touhous 3 and 5.
In Touhou 2, she has several henchmen and an apprentice named Marisa Kirasame looking to make the shrine maiden's day a helluva lot worse.
She also has a hat!

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
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For future reference, I'd like the allies to appear in the same game(s) the character is playable in
And I'm still going to count Touhou 1-5 as part of the main series along with 6-13, with the fighting games as their own spinoff series

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:11 pm 
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Cammy from Super Street Fighter II. She has allies in Delta Red, a squad who takes her in when she looses her memory. Delta Red is comprised of Colonel Keith Wolfman, Matthew McCoy, Lita Luwanda, and George Ginzu.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:11 pm 
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Sakura Kasugano as she appears in Capcom Vs. SNK
Sakura appears in both CvS games, the alpha series, and all the iterations of Street Fighter 4. In Capcom Vs. SNK you make a team of up to 3 characters out of the entire cast, so really, everyone in the game can be her ally. she wears a white headband and throws fireballs, no guns. As for green, some of her alternate colors in the game have her dressing up in green.

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:38 pm 
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wait do alternate outfits count as wearing green?

because if so a lot more options have opened up to me

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 Post subject: Re: Find or Die V - Round LUCKY SEVEN
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She appears in game in green. I've played characters like this before and people were cool with it.

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