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I support abortion, but not just for "anyone". I think its acceptable for girls who have been raped and got pregnant, because it isn't her fault that she has one and is forced to raise it fatherless. That will be difficult for both sides.


Pretty much this.
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I support abortion, but not just for "anyone". I think its acceptable for girls who have been raped and got pregnant, because it isn't her fault that she has one and is forced to raise it fatherless. That will be difficult for both sides. Though, to be fair that is the only situation I can think of right now where that is acceptable.


How does she "prove" it's rape? Is her word trusted, or are there tests, or something?

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I'm heavily heavily pro morning-after pill.

If it is readily available, it solves approximately 99% of problems without having to resort to aborting a fetus which has developed past the 2-celled stage...

This is not a human (2 days)
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This is not a human (2 weeks)
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I have a hard time saying this is not a human (6 months, the latest an abortion can be legally performed in America).
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I'm not trying to argue with you, but what makes the first picture (can't see the second one) un-human?

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Bacon wrote:
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Man that makes me feel easy.

Why? What's up?

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Sloth wrote:
I'm not trying to argue with you, but what makes the first picture (can't see the second one) un-human?

It's a single cell organism. It has developed absolutely nothing which would begin to define it as a human. At that point, an Amoeba is closer to a human than it.

It has not developed at all, and in my eyes, letting it die is no different from a woman having an unfertilized menstruation, or a man jerking off.

I kill significantly more "human" cells if I was to nod my head, or scratch an itch. Saying that a two-celled embryo is a human is like saying that two leaves plucked from a tree are a forest.

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Bacon wrote:
How does she "prove" it's rape? Is her word trusted, or are there tests, or something?


Medical examination is usually enough to prove whether sex has been consentual or not.

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I waited, considerably less than nine months.

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Bacon wrote:
How does she "prove" it's rape? Is her word trusted, or are there tests, or something?


Here you go.

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I know what a rape kit is.

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Bacon wrote:
How does she "prove" it's rape? Is her word trusted, or are there tests, or something?


Medical examination is usually enough to prove whether sex has been consentual or not.
but what about if the chick is into S&M or something? D:

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The Idiotic Oracle wrote:
but what about if the chick is into S&M or something? D:

It's still very different.

There is a difference between consensually violent sex, and being forcefully penetrated against your will.

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Rape usually involves severe mental stress, bruises and cuts, sometimes internal damage of the rapist being too forceful. Thats just my guess though. Consensual violent sex has safe words to let you know when to stop if it gets too rough, and its never anything damaging.

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Either way, I don't think rape should be the only reason an abortion can happen. There's health reasons, of course, and if a 16-year-old fucks up, why should she be forced to keep the baby? Yes, there are consequences to things, but forcing a teenager to take care of a child is ridiculous. No, she doesn't have to keep it after the birth, but there's already a ton of children in orphanages and all that. And furthermore, pre-natal care and all that? Expensive as fuck. Who the hell's gonna pay for that?

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